replication point where people are like oh, we have, i'm the moderate, i can beat donald trump because i'm a moderate. well, i'm more moderate than that moderate. people trying to out-moderate. >> john hickenlooper, bullock. >> exactly, the kind of insert last name here, and it becomes almost like a elevator music version of american politics. and none of that has caught on. i also think if you look back at 2016, there's a reason why bernie sanders did so much better than martin o'malley did, you know, when there was a clear distinct difference in what bernie sanders was saying versus what hillary clinton was saying, and people understood that there were these distinctions. in a field of 24 people, now 22 people, you're necessarily going to have some kinds of replication. and that's also why there are so many people in that 1%, 2%, kind