activity. these guys sort of operate as a quasi government, control the whole city. this is not where you can just avoid a single person in your neighborhood who might be a bully. this is gangs who control the town, they set curfews, they tax you. this is very much in a classic sense persecution. >> i want to go to bigger conversation you and i were having in the break. justi justice sotomayor had a opinion on this. that the rule topples decades of asimem practices and without affording the public a chance to weigh in. that's an interesting point because granting of asylum i think is in the american fabric. >> it actually is kind of at the bottom of the statue of liberty, too. it's what we believe to be good. your argument that it's a process issue, 100% of americans would agree, right? there must be a process in which you evaluate someone's claim. but justice sotomayor says we're