it was we heard from steve caster. and he said that ukraine did not know the president was extorting the country by withholding much-needed military aid. >> at the time of the july 25th call, key toots officials in kiev did not know it was pause, it didn't know that it was paused until august 28th. that's not true. that's's simply not the case. i man that castor knows it's not the cause. laura cooper, deputy assistant director who works in the trump white house, she testified during the impeachment hearings, flag ukrainian concerns in the e-mail the same because as president trump had the phone wall. more than one month before steve cathor says they became aware.