affect on them and i think it has to become the new norm. the scientists are saying and you know scientists are usually pretty neutral -- >> conservative in their pronouncements. >> that's right. and they're saying, folks, this is serious. the only way we can handle it is with unprecedented numbers in the streets pressuring the government. and when i met with the senate task force on climate change and i asked the senators is this -- is what i'm doing right, is there something else i should be doing, and the wonderful senator ed markey said you're building an army, make it big. they need that pressure from the outside. that's always what's changed history. it's what got the new deal pressuring franklin delano roosevelt. >> one question i think about the primary and think about the lay of the land particularly as the numbers come out about the