if that's the person actually responsible for all the criminal conduct. that's why it's a reasonable inference to draw in any grand jury and especially in this one, it means that they have they are working their way up and looking for something that is above him. you can guess the organization itself. possible trump. if they bring weissle burg in. it's speculative. they are looking at something more serious. another thing to realize, the the controller in a normal organization or company the controller is the nerd account person. they are supposed to function as a break. on the business side. like any account. you can't do that. you have to do this or that. trump, m.o. is -- we have seen in in public reporting. he mixes personal and political, business and charity.