consumers too. i think it really is time to take a look and see what we can do to make sure that folks are operating appropriately and be able to incentivize the small processors to be able to get in the game and be competitive, add more markets and move the ball forward while, by the way, on the other side of the equation with cyber, we start expecting companies if not requiring companies to report these cyber attacks on a timely basis to our intel community, to our cybercom so we can find out who these folks are and hold them accountable. >> the head of jbs said they did pay a ransom of $11 million. it's unnerving to watch this catch fire a little bit and to consider what it can do to these basic forms of american supply chains. >> chris, you're right on. if it can happen to the meat