>> yes. >> so, yeah, it is. and you're exactly right. oh, i didn't see the tweet club, i didn't hear the latest. there are people who say, who's to know? how do you know anything? those are the moral and intellectual neilists. those are the people who say, well, you know, how do we know there weren't a lot of illegal immigrants voting. remember, 3 to 5 million of them supposedly voted. so when you are in a cult-like setting, there is no fact that you cannot absorb. there's no bad information -- >> right. >> -- that you can't somehow bend to reaffirm your cult. that's how these things operate. it's very, very dangerous because someone who hasn't spent much time listening to the facts