if we used a german test, the cdc employee said, this was another decision just to not copy the test that was already to build a first one that didn't end up working. >> right. but these investigators are saying how come you didn't do that, and that wasn't their lab. that wasn't their job. it was the job of their bosses, maybe we shouldn't have more than one test or this good one from germany, and they didn't do that, and all the blame fell on these guys when things when ka flewy with their test. >> there's a single point of failure, a combination of things that i keep seeing replay throughout this pandemic even after donald trump left, some bureaucratic inertia, a lack of decisive leadership at one level above the folks that are working the civil servants, and then in the case of trump, this like cascading feeling that it's not going to be that bad.