i have been thinking watching liz cheney like where is the old man on this. we got our view. what do you make of his appearance yesterday? >> well, the first thing you got to say is he's a really good dad. i mean, he's there as the father supporting his daughter. it happens to be that they both had been minority whip of the house of representatives and he's been standing back watching her career and letting her do her thing. i think it's clear he loathes donald trump. he did a lot of things that were terrible for the country. he made a lot of big mistakes but they were always sincere. he's an idealog.