transformative and pelosi knows it. i think that is what she was speaking to when she was kind of alluding to, you know, i think people are making more of that than they should maybe. in my 20 years i never saw 1.5, 2 trillion, $3.5 trillion package before us. this is twice the size of the affordable care act. it is monumental and transformative. forget the process maybe. it's about the product. at the end of the day there will be a great product out of washington d.c. >> sam stein, how did they get themselves sort of wrapped around an axel here talking about trillions ofd and what's paid for, what's not paid for, but have not until the last couple days been talking about what is in these bills in. >> right. maybe they need some of the pixie dust that congressman crowley was talking about to get out of the axel. part of this is just a matter of sequencing. in order to move the bipartisan infrastructure bill, house