were very sad failures. >> another program you were involved with was a hostage program? >> i was a crisis negotiator for the eou team, the emergency operations unit. >> what did you do? >> i was a crisis negotiator. >> what does that mean? >> we would go out on barricaded subjects or without with the s.w.a.t. team would be the easiest way to describe it on warrants. we would respond to calls where there may be people in danger. >> and was your job to try and negotiate with the subject and get him to submit to being arrested? >> yes, he or she. >> was that your main job? >> no, i was always a patrol officer. >> as far as a hostage negotiator that's what you did. >> yes, i was a crisis negotiator. >> what other programs were you in? >> i was on the law enforcement memorial solicitation honor guard. >> what is that?