of the trouble. this is what trump has done to our politics. he has made trolling a troublemaking and shouting the main objectives of it. so you see republicans here looking what -- looking for the next big thing. and they are latching onto the truckers, but do they want to see them shut down the super bowl tomorrow? that would be the most un-american thing i could think of. >> somehow, that doesn't square up with their political ideology. we will see if they actually support it. who knows. david, stick around, we have a lot more to get with you later on in this hour. but for some more insight on this, i'm joined now by former decker medic congresswoman dinna shalala from florida. she was also the secretary of human services in under the clinton administration.