i want to hate people based on their character towards me now, not what they did hundreds of years ago, or their family did hundreds of years ago. >> i think white people are afraid it's going to make them feel ashamed. >> yeah. i think so, too. that's why they're probably, when you're teaching -- i keep going back to the teaching. it's where it all starts because i doubt if a white man would tell his six-year-old daughter we owned slaves, or we did this to slaves. i doubt if that happens. >> i think we all should learn the real history because, as black people, we think we know but we don't. i never met my great grandmother. you know, they don't talk about slavery, the racial segregation. they don't talk about it. >> would you want to ask her