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MSNBC Dateline October 18, 2021 05:23:00

if treacherous spot, to recommit to each other, stephen said. to kiss and make up. >> the spot where they went is not a spot where you would go to reconcile with anybody. >> detectives were not buying the story for another reason. they had found something suspicious inside scharf's car. a bag filled with items you'd expect for a romantic picnic, and one you would not, a hammer. >> you have your wine, cheese, crackers, opener, claw hammer. i mean, red flags are going up. they reached the pole at that point. >> did you think it might be a murder weapon? >> yeah i thought it might have been plan a. he didn't use it, so he went to plan b. >> which he believed, was to push or throw jody off that cliff. so detectives asked stephen scharf the obvious. what was the hammer doing in that picnic bag? >> he told us he fixed the draw in his kitchen, with the hammer, and he forgot to put it back in

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