nobody winds. i will say this -- i think lisa knows somewhere that the system that she wanted to be a part of worked. >> reporter: the caldwells and techels weren't the only ones with a stake in the verdict. brian tate's sister sherri had been waiting for this moment, too. >> i started crying. it wasn't tears of sorrow. it was tears of joy. they had finally gotten this s.o.b. i hope he rots in prison. >> reporter: todd still carries the burden of helping to pin the blame on tate in those awful moments after lisa's murder. >> i can never tell the family how sorry i am that they had to go through what they had to. we're going to have the last word on brian tate. this is an innocent guy that was made a victim by seth. >> all rise. >> reporter: a sentencing hearing was held in september, 2014. the caldwells were given a chance to address the court but talked directly to seth.