>> i just wanted to sleep. i wanted to, like, go to sleep and wake up and pinch myself, and -- >> and make it a different world. >> exactly. >> reporter: detective julissa trapp wanted to speak with both men, of course. but cano lawyered up. so she tried gordon, still in a wheelchair after his bike accident. >> hi, steven. >> hi. >> how are you? >> and i knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview i had done. he's cunning, manipulative. >> he didn't have to talk to you. >> he did not have to talk to me. >> are you cold? do you want a blanket? >> yeah. if you don't mind. >> no, not at all. >> reporter: but detective trapp has a way, as they say. >> you were actually compassionate. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> you were kind to him. you brought him a blanket, food. >> here is our chips. >> thank you. >> yes. we actually shared two meals together. >> it is spicy. >> i told you. i told you to be careful.