unintentioned. >> exactly. >> reporter: still, he always tried to calm natalie's nerves. >> i remember a dinner where he said to me, "babe, relax. in these situations there are bigger fish to fry than me. they will always go after a judge or an attorney before they ever come to me, so you don't need to worry, because we'll always have a warning. i will always have a warning, and i will know what to do." so the circumstance, losing him the way that we did, was stunning to me. >> reporter: one of the rare times he was ever wrong? >> yeah. >> reporter: thursday, may 31st, 2018. i'd seen steve about a week before. natalie of course, saw him that morning. they made plans to meet after work.