he knows -- he knows what they don't know that he did. and he is absolutely going to bluff -- >> things they don't know that he did. >> and he will not take that stand, i really -- i do not believe he will do that. and for -- someone said that, you know, because he can handle it and take in the state thing if he wins politically, he can't take care of the state. he can only take care of -- this is a state trial. he can't pardon himself if he wins the election if he's convicted. he can't do anything about the state. good luck to him calling governor hochul asking for a pardon. >> good luck is about all we can say. we have to sneak in a break. on this news that's broken since we've been on the air about judge marchand saying these are the rulings, pretty pointed rebuke but statement to trump's defense team, and announcing oral arguments for monday morning. >> it's game on. i mean, we sure we're working toward this, but it's happening. it's going to be historic. and it's going to be interesting