[inaudible] its menendez, all she will be with you from 7 pm eastern for a special two hour look at matt dashed election day. That is where we begin this hour, with the question of Whether American Democracy [inaudible] in two days time, the biggest test yet amidst great amid election day is just the next three days. Think again. Also tonight, young voters [inaudible] now eligible voters this time around. At democracies peril. Actress sofia busch is live tonight to reproductive rights and why it is nonsense to say this election is between the economy. This moment, she says, is nothing short of a national emergency. Good evening, im mehdi hasan. This is perilous and precarious time for american democracy. On the ballot in these critical midterm elections. Of the weekend, it kisses like wisconsin, final early voters were casting their ballots. Election day is now less than two days away. So, tonight, i want you to picture the scene as we take you to a post midterm future. Its january the 6th, 2025. I know you know what that means. Codified congress to be in session to count the Electoral College votes to president united states. Something that used to happen as a matter of course in this country, a rubberstamp, essentially. [inaudible] a layup. Golfers would call a gimme and of at the hundred 19 congress, four years on from an insurrection, i want you to mention that republicans now control both the house and the senate. And they control and the red wave of November 2022 and kept hold of them in november 2024. Difficult to ambition. In the president ial election stigma, joe biden faced off against donald trump again attract again. Trump by several million. When the electric Terrell College by healthy margins, again. Now, in january 2025, adding two months since bidens reelection victory, there is been chaos in states. In pennsylvania, where biden won again, republican nominate in 2022, a guy that was at the capitol in january he was rejected by pennsylvania, claiming without evidence, massive election fraud. Signed off on his own slate of pro trump elections for a 16. Meanwhile, michigan, whos denying the results of the 2020 election but was still elected to office back in the 2022 midterms. They rejected the will to d. C. And wisconsin, elected governor in 2022, after the youngkin academy to become a republican candidate. In 2025, refusing to certify the win for biden and a pro trump [inaudible] prior to his victory of 2022, sudden is recording released by the republican accountability project, he said that allowed, didnt he . Republicans will never lose another election wisconsin after im elected governor. So, to repeat, imagine. Its genius, extra to 25. He socked his Electoral College vote to michigan. From pennsylvania. The result is shockingly, june of 69 votes for biden. Tonight 69 for trump. Its a tie. Under the child amendment, it goes to the house of representatives, and house delegations. Speaker of the house and is going vote to return trump to the white house. It doesnt matter that joe biden, a democrat, won the popular vote and electoral vote, both by comfortable margins. Pushed by election denying [inaudible] put trump back in the oval office. Because of what happens at the ballot box, this coming tuesday at the 2022 midterm elections. You might say that the scenario of a line is not going to happen. Only once is the 12 minute was passed in 1824. Even if the republicans and the house senate on tuesday would have Dug Mastriano and michaels with governor manchin in the coming week is going to pass and senate in the coming months. It has, 15 republican spots. It can open the senate filibuster. That act, say governors, could prevent the government from blocking the will of the people in their state. People in handpicked slates of electors to d. C. That sets up a panel of federal judges who could to the Supreme Court. Yes. The Supreme Court with six conservative justices on it. Three of whom are on the bush team in 2000 when the then Supreme Court handed the presidency to w and three of them were, of course, trump appointees. Lets assume the electoral in the coming months. Lets assume the Supreme Court prevents a governor mastery ono or a governor michaels from ignoring the will of pennsylvanians or wisconsin nights, two big assumptions. We are still not out of the woods. The result of the election on tuesday could determine the outcome of the 2024 president ial election and the future of american democracy. How . Simple. On january the 6th 2021, only hours after yelling at trump on the phone that the insurrection were trying to kill him, voted to overturn the election. Mccarthy will not carry on as if trump had done nothing wrong that day and voted to give him another four years in the white house. It didnt work then because the republicans were the minority in 2021. This tuesday, if the vote goes their way, they become the majority in the house in the next congress. A majority that would certainly hold on to november 2024. If those republicans, as a minority in the house, are willing to try to overturn the Election Results in arizona and pennsylvania, january the 6th 2021, do you think they wont try to do it if they are the majority come January The 6th 2025 . When mccarthy has the speakers gavel in his hand . Really . You think come january 2025 a Republican Controlled Senate will contain a whole new cast of gop candidates like herschel walker, j. D. Vance, dan boulder, mehmet oz, Election Deniers, trump lawyers, its not going to consider Overturning A swing state that a governor is screaming for . Seriously . I can guarantee joe biden will people think that he i signed a letter with 120 generals and admirals saying trump won the election. Damn it, i stand by it. Yes or no simply, do you feel the election was stolen . Yeah, i do. Look. This picture im painting for you isnt hyperbole or fiction or fantasy. It could happen. Its possible. Unlikely, yes. But far from impossible or implausible, sadly. Not based on what weve seen in recent years, more importantly recent weeks. Its why so many of us are saying tuesday could be the last time you vote in a free and Fair Election in the united states. The last time your vote actually matters and is respected. The 2022 midterms could determine not just the makeup of the next congress and the occupants of Governors Mansions across the country, but also the winner of the 2024 president ial election. The events of january 6th a mob stormed the u. S. Capitol. Candidates running at every level of office in america for governor, congress, Attorney General, Secretary Of State, who wont commit, they will not commit accepting the results of an election they are running in. Its unprecedented. Its unlawful. Its an american. Ive said before, you cant love your country only you win. If republican Election Deniers at state and federal win enough seats season fcrucial posts, whether governor of michigan, speaker of the house in washington, d. C. , they will have the power to install a president. Not elect a president , install a president in january 2025. That persons name will almost certainly be donald j trump. Joining me now to discuss, the Democracy Crisis in tuesdays midterms could bring about, our elections coach, president ial historian, New York Times bestselling author, writer and author and columnist for the daily beast staff writer at the atlantic. A year ago, he published a key headline, trumps next coup has already begun. Thank you all for joining me. Let me start with, you barked. You wrote in the atlantic piece last year the perspective i just described in my introduction is not remote. People with the motive to make it happen are manufacturing the means, given the opportunity they will act, they are acting already. Midterms are a big part of that, arent they . Its not so much congress or the house will be very important. As the state offices, the state races Secretary Of State in most dates is responsible for certifying and refereeing the election. They have somebody with the power to do that, use it to subvert the actual results is catastrophic. We are simply not sure as a country how to handle that. Catastrophic is indeed the right word. Elections people like me keep saying these are the most important in terms of our lifetime, if not ever. You are the historian. Is that fair . Is that true . Is that hyperbole . That is quite true. If i look at the recent past, when thinking about elections, with this one, [inaudible] [inaudible] into a the confederacy. They tried to restrict rights. That was a moment in which the country had to react. Or are they going to let a war that they had fought before nothing . Or were they going to react . It was galvanizing. It was sweeping. We have to consider that a viable example that might inspire us. Otherwise, it does look quite bleak. A very good fight. Given how much is at stake in terms of a republican antidemocratic takeover of congress, the governors mentions, how do democrats make the threat clear and urgent to the voters . Joe biden gave a good speech on democracy. Was that enough on its own . A little too late i would say. Oftentimes, what we have said on your shows democrats bring a pencil to a knife fight. Mitch mcconnell and republicans bring a bazooka. Im glad joe biden had that televised speech where he called mega sme fascist movement. He amplify that rhetoric in the past two weeks between now and the final run. He talked about the threat to democracy, the threats of Voting Rights. However, this should have been the preeminent, if you will, urgent message for the past two years. Im old enough to remember the 2020 violent insurrection inspired by trump and orchestrated by rightwing allies. And that insurrection, the rnc says was done by ordinary legitimate political discourse. There were majority of republicans running right now believe in the big lie. Which means Election Deniers are going to potentially win elections. How does a democracy survive when one of the parties hijacked by radicalized, weaponized movements that believes in the big lie and White Supremacist that they will not concede elections theyve lost and their model is viktor Orban Of Hungry who installed and authoritarian rightwing government which, by the way, republicans have openly said that model for the united states. I know youve had these debates before. Its fascism, is It Authoritarianism . What really is fascism . I dont care what your definition is, look at people literally and seriously and take them at their work. They are saying they will take power and maintain power forever. That is fascism. Listening to joshua pirro, the democrat in pennsylvania. If you dont think like doug mastriano, if you dont look like him, if you dont vote like him, if you dont worship like him, if you dont marry like him, you dont care in his pennsylvania. You know how i know that . Because i know where he was on january this six. Is that the right way to take on a mash tree are no, what is being the best within, to take on the nationalists especially christian nationalists on the right . If we look at George Washington as our example, he had absolutely [inaudible] he sent out a huge [inaudible] its our democracy is threaten then you should react as they did. And, George Washington said after his second term that he left voluntarily, he had given up power before, after the revolution. He made a warning that had come true. Over the last four or past years. Which is that if we simply let our own interest, if we let an principle met, on principle men, who carry nothing for any sort of National Unity that rather just want to retain power that we will have quality in the same type of day can chaos that we have viewed with the british that we blamed parliament for. And we deserve what had occurred we would be there for another revolution. We certainly will deserve it. But People Struggle to take the grant of democracy seriously. Because they think Political Violence on things that are happening in faraway countries beyond the republic, not here, not america, how do you persuade people that the Nightmare Scenario in 2024 is in farfetched. It isnt a movie storyline that could very well be [inaudible] on tuesday. I think that its a matter of , sorry that was for alex there bart. Sorry i think that we need more and better journalism for one thing. I mean we need to be going out to the states and doing gradual reporting on what the actual plans are. The thing that worries me more than Political Violence is political subversion that people who have lawful access to power, who are, for example the Secretary Of State for the county election clerks but do not intend to carry out the responsibilities, who are intent on electing trump, intent on calling vote for biden, fraudulent. And whether it happens or not. And those were real risks, and yes, the outcome of this election will have a very [inaudible] have a listen to donald trump speaking in pennsylvania. We have the clip, have a listen. I have a great relationship with president xi, he is my president for life. He is with well, he doesnt hide his envy for shoes has the life stay this is the defect of the gop on the major election, basically, bringing provenance on authoritarian dictatorship. This is the figurehead of the party that says for freedom and liberty, he praises saudi arabia, of murder in a bertrand a tyrant. He loves the Orban Of Hungry. He loves, loves himself now. President xi, who, by all accounts will become an authoritarian dictator of china. And, so that gives you the tell that this you should take them literally and seriously. And the thing that i want to say for americans because you have to vote but then come wednesday regardless of the result, i want everyone whos listening to know that we are dealing with the radicalized, weaponized, right wing movement. They will not stop like peace and development. They are organized, they are going to take them literally and seriously. The one positive that we have is that we have the numbers. The majority have the numbers so we have to organize a local level and we have to take this threat on. It is a fascist threat, take them literally, take them seriously, look at their actions listen to the words and either candidates, they are telling you the playbook. We take them very seriously on the show, we will do that with the entirety of this hour. We will leave this discussion, here thank you all, appreciated. Next, we know that they have registered in large numbers but will people make a difference at the poll, we look at what the early vote is telling us. Plus, abortion doesnt just matter for women actress sofia beshear shares her views and stories. And stories. Sirloin salisbury steak and allnatural salmon. Perfect for lunch or dinner. Only at ihop. Download the app and earn free food with every purchase. Among my patients, i often see them have Teeth Sensitivity as well as gum issues. Does it worry me . Absolutely. Sensodyne sensitivity gum gives us the dual Action Effect that really takes care of both our Teeth Sensitivity as well as our gum issues. 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For years, the young voters have said that they do not vote. They cannot be bothered. But now, this government of democracies peril take the Battleground State for example also remember it was young voters who are vital to democratic victories in the last two elections. And, to putting joe biden in the white house. They report 64 of young voters cast a ballot in 2020. Up tempers and from previous president ial elections. And, before, that 11 more voters turned up in 2018 to give them across their bloodrate and control of the house in Donald Trumps final two years in office. The data isnt convincing enough, look at whats happening on the ground and one of the red estates in america today. Check out this video from this past that was posted online by the Group Nextgen a merica showing young people lined, up waiting to vote in austin, texas. This was a day later on friday which was the last day of in person early voting in texas. That line of young foals hurt is doubling in just the days time. The question, before us though, what will this mean on Tuesday Night for the Overall Results . Lets ask Christina Simpson ramirez, president