constitution, the answer is absolutely yes. this is a breach of the president's fiduciary duty. we already have compelling evidence that he did this. so some senators yesterday, senator kamala harris said on msnbc that she doesn't need anymore evidence. she has enough evidence before her right now to vote to remove the president from office. >> i'm just curious, again, it's political. so it's all the sort of rules of normal legal procedure don't really apply. it's a very unique process but from the standpoint of a senator like harris, you mentioned, being a juror, essentially that's what you are in the senate, should you be making that proclamation beforehand or take the posture of i am a juror, i have some notions going into this, but i want to hear what each side says before a guilty or not guilty. >> a question will be what's the defense, and we see the trump folks flailing. first they said, i didn't do it, and then they say, well, maybe i did it, but it's not a crime. today they said the energy secretary made me do it, so we