liberation. >> every time i have been incarcerated i come out worse than i have been in, but if you are healed and cannot help the next person you are community will be that much safer. >> everybody is worried about safety. those investments in freedom are actually what is going to make us safer. investing in freedom and human flourishing.>> it is these conversations whether it is in a very small town or a big town . pulling people together and allowing them to listen to each other is freedom. >> joining me now is john legend. thank you for taking the time to sit down with me. >> my pleasure. great to see you and speak with you about this. >> this is pretty personal to you. all of the work you have done.