subverting of u.s. foreign policy and national security to the president's personal and political interests, these sorts of things are incompatible with this oath and those of us that believe in the rule of law, the importance of the presidency and the role that the president must play should be willing to say so and it's -- we're at the point where the question should not be whether the president is engaging in conduct that is incompatible with his oath. the question should be whether it justifies removing him from office. >> and when it comes to the expeditious part of this, what are the legal reasons, the pertinent ones for doing this quickly? >> well, i mean, at this point we -- there are things that we know that are no longer disputed. for a long period of time there were questions about what material was redacted from the mueller report, how to interpret certain things in the mueller report, did certain things constitution obstruction and the like. but now we have information about activities that even the