july 25th transcript does president trump ever suggest that he intends to withhold military aid for any reason? >> he doesn't. and that's reason we keep on hearing the word circumstantial and inferential. and that's what is so concerning. is that those would be appropriate terms. it's not that you can't have a circumstantial case. those would be appropriate terms if these were knowable facts. but the problem is you have so many witnesses that have not been subpoenaed. so many witnesses that we have not heard from. >> right. so if it's not in the transcript, then it's got to come from witness testimony. and i assume you've reviewed all the witness testimony. so you know that no witness has testified that they either heard president trump or were told by president trump to withhold military aid for any reason. correct? >> correct. >> so let me turn to the issue of obstruction of justice quickly. i think you assumed, as i did,