he phoned it in. he saw a bribery plot. he knew that it was political and wrong. he phoned it in through private channels and he went about his work. this is not someone who reads in any way as grandizing, looking for the spotlight. he said under oath that he phoned it in because he thought it was wrong, and he went on with his work and his duty through official channels. he did not think that he would be testifying before the cameras or to the american public, and in our experience, i do think the public responds strongly to that because there's really very little to impugn. this is his story. it's devastating for the white house. >> i've been wanting to ask you this question as i sat listening to colonel vindman talk about going through his chain of command. he doesn't just follow the chain of command, he reveres the chain of command. it is, to me, what distinguishes him from everyone else we've heard from, and in his view following the chain of command when he had concerns meant going