that was how i got into the abuse with jeffrey. your a he screaming on the inside and you don't know how to let it come out and you become this numb figure who refuses to feel and refuses to speak and refuses -- all you do is obey. that's it. >> joining me now nbc investigations producer sarah fitzpatrick and an attorney representing some of epstein's accusers. jennifer freeman. let me start with you. can you explain to us what this process is? jeffrey epstein has died. despite the seriousness of allegations against him the law generally ceases to pursue a case once someone is dead. what is this process that allows these women in court to talk? >> today in the courtroom was a motion to dismiss the indictment because an indictment cannot go forward against a dead person. you don't prosecute someone who is no longer with us. >> this is proforma. the prosecutors have to bring the motion. it doesn't go away because somebody died. they have to ask a judge.