control of it, but they are really going to try, his defenders on the committee, to do well for their guy that is watching across the pond. >> and it's not awkward at all, by the way, with all these hearings like devin nunes asking questions, and then you see that he's in it. i mean, there's evidence that he's somehow connected with the scandal. >> the notion that he was sitting on that dyess knowing that those phone records existed. >> explain why that's a problem. >> he is running the show for the republican party when he is directly implicated in this conspiracy to leverage military assistance for political help from a foreign entity. that is outrageous. >> it's incredible. >> and the fact that republicans are not taking him out of the picture at this point. >> it's incredible. >> is unbelievable to me. >> it's like there's blinders. joining us now member of the financial services committee, democratic congresswoman katie porter of california, and member of the house homeland security