culture warriors as what you would call the trump-ians. >> david. call me passe, i'm very passe. still in the republican party, but still trying to find a place to land, because it is not with trumpism. one thing that we've seen, especially since the january 6th insurrection, is that republican state parties especially are drilling down into local races, they're drilling down into operations as far as election workers. i've heard things like steve bannon has targeted the top 20 clerks in the five states in which president trump lost to actually get them elected into positions. can you talk about the need for democrats to match this and to really, instead of talking a lot of times at 20,000 feet, to get down into the trenches to keep us a democracy? >> even mainstream republicans.
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