>> here's what he says -- what was amazing is you don't see people in the trump era say the stuff before they've been hacked -- whacked if you will. what i don't have -- this is what he tells the "post," what i don't have control over is the tone, the message, the public face and the approach of the department in an increasingly polarized time. that's uncomfortable as the accountable senior figure. some of this may be a little shot at steven miller. but he's -- if you're the dhs secretary, you have been sitting there whether it was him, nielsen, or kelly, you've been dealing with miller micromanaging. >> watching this develop the last two or three years, donald trump came with his own little cadre. when he first arrived, there were lots of either career people oh mainline republicans or conservative but not trump conservative republicans who were around him, trump tried all -- to one degree or another -- >> by the way -- >> got rid of most of them. >> these people wanted to see more on the border.