dnc, to pay christopher steele to dig up dirt with other foreign services on their political rival? >> devon archer, former board member from burisma, alexander chalu chalupa, who admitted she provided anti-trump information to the dnc and hillary clinton. nelly orr, who helped create the ridiculous steele dossier. >> i mean, it was alarming how easily they have all done this, but the issue here, mike, i think they genuinely believe some of this stuff. >> it was really disheartening for me to hear that. it was really heartening for me to hear fiona, dr. feouna hill, i'm sorry, i shouldn't call her fiona. i knew her before she was a doctor, by the way, i think. to try to dispel it. and by the way, chuck, i just published a piece in "the washington post" this week warning americans about how we cannot become complicit in running putin propaganda into