won't use regular order, we n't take it through commites, we don't do wt any other entity local, state government running a business would do, you can't run the biggest business ithe world thfederal government by the seat o its pants like we've been doing it for decades. >> so the president -- president trump's tax bill was a big mistake in your mind, then. wasn't paid for, added to the deficit and so the debt -- so, you know, you would not support raising the debt ceiling to help pay for that, either? >> so the cbo had costed that out at $1.5 trillion over ten years, $150 billion a year, an chuck, pre covid i was communicating with the cbo. are we revenue neutral? did we hit the sweet spot where we were raising wages? and, yes, we did cut taxes, but it was so close to payin for itself. this is so different from that and, yes, if we're can you get