the report. he's not talking but his email accounts are and text messages are. how is the committee making use of what he did decide to hand over before he changed his mind on cooperating. >> there's 9,000 pages of these documents that mark meadows did turn over in the few weeks he was, in fact, cooperating with the committee. and so that's part of the committee's point. they're saying you are claiming executive privilege that you can't come in to talk to us, but meanwhile, you have turned over all of these documents. now you're not willing to come in and give your oral testimony about it. and so they say that it doesn't square. but we've got an lot of insight from these documents, and we haven't seen them, obviously, but just what the committee has unveiled, and so -- not even unveiled but mentioned, referenced in their report. and so this is the third time that the committee is going to move forward with this criminal contempt referral. we saw it with jeffrey clark, a