health experts say by that point it doesn't help you all that much. it doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help you the way we needed it right now. >> no and as we talked yesterday on the show with dr. blackstock testing and masks have been the initial problem back in a previous administration and here we go again. peter, thank you. let me turn to the number two skrath in the houpts, maryland congressman steny hoyer. i hope you don't do to me what speaker pelosi did to the press corps saying, hey, go ask them how they're going to solve this problem. you know kyrsten sinema really well, she was on your whip team. she made it clear today she's not moving on this. if you don't have the votes, is this exercise worthwhile? is it worthwhile shining a spotlight on democratic division at a time when the party is -- is not doing so hot? >> democratic division, one out of 50, i wouldn't call division, i would call it doesn't get us