price russia perceives. people say there's always china, and when there's one customer you get a worst price than when there are a lot of customers. >> and what is your take? >> venezuelan oil, and venezuela is an ally of russia, but we are seeing a lot of shifting alliances right now. banning russian energy, you will see that vote, in the house a vote to do that. manchin and murkowski in the senate are leading 18 senators. maybe it's symbolic or not, but won't be symbolic is prices at the pump are rising, and i know what you both just said, but politics will be that this is somehow related to the ukraine. that's the problem for democrats right now. >> yes, gas prices will go up which is why if i were in the