bakery just ten minutes away from us. talk to us about this. obviously, you want to pay your employees as much as you possibly can. you want to get your supplies. that's hard to do after a really long year. >> oh, yeah. basically, to have an employee work for an hour and paying, $12, $15 an hour, i have to make at least double, triple that within that hour to be able to pay them. and then, your gas and electric and your supplies and everything. and it's pretty hard. and you don't have people that are coming in that want minimum wage. they want big dollars. >> not necessarily big dollars -- >> they want the higher paycheck. >> how do we address this? it's great to see workers getting paid more, getting benefits, and the amazons, the walmarts of the world can absolutely do that. but what happens to our main street stores? what happens to lucia's bakery and the pizzeria? >> these are really hard