on here. it all makes a difference in an interesting picture on wet we're seeing here. >> matt, thank you for your reporting. matt lapierre, in moscow. they're saying ukraine has likely to crime in the few days as they seek refuge across the border. for those seeking their homes, the horror is the math. >> how do you feel? >> just shattered. not myself. i don't care about my safety. i care about ukraine. and ukrainians. to see this happening to the country is just devastating. ukrainians stay strong. they need to. they're stronger than me. >> with us is clint, fbi agents and distinct research fellow at the -- , and matt. author of --