don't have, and we can have truth and facts. and science can lead policy. and not core evenness. >> i know that you insist upon believing that there is still a rational center out there. here's the question. how does a lifelong texas republican, convince democrats, convince moderates, that is going to the good which said, it's safe to come out. >> as you probably know. i started my life as a democrat, i actually got elected the last democratic elected governor of texas. i ran's campaigns in 90 in 90, four and helped and richards, the less democratic elected governor of the state of texas. i do have a pedigree in, it i obviously want to work for george w. bush. my view is, we are at a crucial point, and really the teams lineup like this.