i understand the problem with doing that. i think it's worth considering how that might happen again. a number of nato allies are willing to provide those jets to the ukrainians. we gotta figure out how to make that happen. if we do those two things, the ukrainians can put up a pretty effective air defense system. >> let's talk about the russians and the russian troops. our friend tom nichols posted this today. quote, there seems to be no strategical left here other than to just kill ukrainians for their defiance. putin, of course, claimed he was liberating the brothers and sisters of russia, but apparently just murdering them is the backup plan. big do you agree with that? >> i do. and i will put it in another context. russia is taking the page from 15th century warfare. in the wars of the reformation in europe, cities were encircled. canons were used to simply batter them into submission. there was no smart weaponry. it is pure, brute force. another way to put it is the