you've tangled with him. sometimes he wins big. sometimes he loses big. is this the same man that you tangled with years ago? what do you make of the way he seems right now to be losing and complicating life for his supposed client list? >> few of us change his age our age. he is the same guy. his modus operandi now and then is either you love him or he hates you. so he and donald trump get along very well. then he was -- he is a smart trump, but even then he was kind of cocky disassembler, pushing the edge of the envelope. and now he's flown too close to the sun with wings of wax, and he's going to have to testify. if he is deposed, he'll have to do it probably privately. adam schiff is a lot of things, but he is not dumb. and to have this guy who has gone from the mayor of america to the joker, the way he's on