those were going into circulation. so a wide range of questions for clark who is, of course, a lawyer, who appreciates the fact that he can't just exert a blanket privilege and must show up and answer questions individually, the big outstanding question is whether this was a cooperative session and he's decided to share the truth with investigators or whether this amounted to a lot of i don't remember and i'm taking the fifth amendment. >> maya, the panel alleges clark stoked fear and election misinformation. if he doesn't talk -- that is a possibility -- what happens then? >> of course, the committee has to take the decision about whether they're going to ask for the u.s. attorney in d.c. to charge him with essentially refusing to cooperate under the subpoena. now, i think that that may not be -- to joyce's point, if he's taking the fifth, that's not a straight-forward decision.