others. i think they in their best interests don't want to prolong this into the next election. it behooves them to quickly come and testify and allow us to move on. dragging it out is not going to help those individuals who want to obstruct this. >> so to that point because the white house records from november 3rd to january 3rd or january 20th, have never been subpoenaed. and i imagine they would reveal quite a lot. in terms of, again, enforcing these subpoenas, making sure people show up, if the courts uphold it, again, what is the tangible consequence, right? that's what people want to know. what is the tangible consequence coming out of this committee, particularly if people are thumbing their nose before testifying? congressman castro, i'll let you answer. >> i don't think that's going to happen, especially as that mcgahn case made its way through the court and mcgahn finally testified. i suspect that these folks will actually show up and testify. you know, it could take a few weeks or some of them a few