Democratic efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning back republican support in 2022, end quote. At this surreal headline in todays paper, the party of lincoln and reagan now formally and publicly holds the position that the deadly mob of people trying to overthrow the u. S. Government consisted of, quote, ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. In case you missed that. The official position of the rnc now is that legitimate political discourse is what happened on january 6th. A day in which resulted in the deaths of at least five Police Officers and multiple insurrectionists including one who was shot and died while attempting to forcibly breach a barricaded area of the capitol building. According to the rnc, legitimate political discourse now includes publicly chanting a desire to hang the former Vice President mike pence. It also includes bringing a preconstructed gallows along. Ive never seen a gallows in my life, not in america. The rnc believes that legitimate political discourse results in the Vice President ushered away as you see here under guard for fear of his life. Yesterday just a couple of hours after that censure vote and the release of the antidemocratic government in a speech before the Federalist Society the former Vice President mike pence indirectly weighed in on the situation while offering his most public and straightforward repudiation of the insurrectionist former president acknowledging that the big lie is a threat to american democracy. 6 was a dark day in the history of the United States capitol. Lives were lost and many were injured. I heard this week that President Trump said i had the right to overturn the election. President trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American People and the American People alone and frankly, there is no idea more unamerican than the notion that any one person could choose the american president. The truth is theres more at stake than our party or political fortunes. Men and women, if we lose faith in the constitution we wont just lose elections. Well lose our country. Quite something from the former Vice President. We will lose our country. In addition to those remarks the National Archives says that pences records will be turned over to the House Select Committee on march 3rd. We also know that pences former chief of staff, mark short someone who has firsthand knowledge of the former president s efforts to pressure pence to overturn the election recently appeared under subpoena. The select committee interviewed the former secretary of the army ryan mccarthy, the official in charge of making decisions about deploying National Guard troops. Youll remember they came quite late. Joining me now is democratic representative Stacy Plaskett of the United States virgin islands. She served as an Impeachment Manager in the second Impeachment Trial of donald trump. Representative plaskett, good to see you this morning. Thank you for being with us. The Vice President s comments, you are the person that americans remember as laying out exactly what happened in the in the congress on january 6th. We know that something happened to the Vice President. We know they were chanting hang mike pence. We know there was a gallots and he was ushered out to safety and the white house seemed to have zero interest in his safety. They didnt call him. He called them, but now you are hearing from the Vice President the strongest words yet that youre wrong. I wasnt authorized to do what i can do and where the Republican Party is into dangerous antidemocratic territory. Its good to be with you, and you know, this is just a culmination of something thats been happening for a number of years in the Republican Party. Lets recall that during president Obamas AdministrationMitch Mcconnell said that he would be an obstructionist. That he would not work with democrats, that he was going to be the grim reaper in which no legislation would pass. Fast forward into when the republicans had a unified government and controlled the house, the senate and the white house. What did they do . They only took care of themselves with a tax legislation, and now we see that they were unwilling to lose the grips of power at the demise of our democracy. Theyre only concerned with power. Theyre only concerned with controlling our government and if they cannot have it they will destroy it and thats what weve seen that President Trump has done through so much information thats come out in january 6th that is validating the impeachment of that president and well show history will show that individuals who did not vote to convict him were absolutely wrong. Im curious about whether this rnc censure of your colleagues, liz cheney and Adam Kinzinger may be a bridge too far. I constantly hear from republicans that there is no real civil war going and its trumps party and yet there were a number of tweets as a result of this from republicans. Mitch romney tweeted, shame for those who seek truth in the sake of vitriol. Honor attaches to liz cheney and Adam Kinzinger even when it comes at great personal cost. The rnc is censuring liz cheney and Adam Kinzinger because its a sad day for my party and the country when youre punished just for expressing your beliefs and standing on principle and refusing to tell blatant lies. Tell me about this because on january 6th in 2021 all sorts of them said this is terrible and donald j. Trump himself and people who did this should pay the price. Everybody folded. Everybody flipped. Does this flip them back a little bit . Unfortunately, the individuals that you have cited as putting out tweets are cassidy as well as romney were the brave republicans who were willing to vote to convict the president in the impeachment, and we know that Governor Hogan has in the past come out against donald trump. So we dont see those individuals who have been lockstep behind the president after january 6th now turning and actually getting a spine. That has not happened, and i dont see it happening within the Republican Party. Its a sad day when we have the opposing party that is not only not playing by the rules, but actually going after our democracy. Im not convinced that the Republican Party has a way back anymore. It doesnt seem that thats possible. It is odd because im not sure a ton of my viewers think that mike pence was the guy who was going to save democracy or the Republican Party. You did say in your presentation during the impeachment in february of 2021, you said the mob was looking for Vice President pence because of his patriotism because the Vice President refused to do what the president demanded and overturned the election results. They were talking about assassinating the Vice President of the United States. We are more than a year later. This is literally a year after you said this. I suppose better late than never, but do you think mike pence saying what he said yesterday is of any consequence . Will it have any impact on anybody . Well, you know, im a pessimist, ali, and i fear that mike pence is really just trying to save himself in his own president ial bid. We know that hes been engaged in meetings in South Carolina where there is a huge republican primary. We dont have him willing to come and testify before the January 6th Commission and those individuals from his inner circle while they did testify refused to say specifically their conversations with President Trump so lets not hail him as the great hero at this point. We are grateful that he did not succumb to pressure from donald trump to follow suit and try to overthrow the government on january 6th, but is he going to be the patriot that we see Adam Kinzinger or liz cheney and actually outright repudiating the president and what he said . Thats yet to be seen. Representative Stacy Plaskett, democratic representative for the u. S. Virgin islands. Thank you for being with us. We always appreciate your time on a weekend morning. Joining me is Yamiche Alcindor and is also an msnbc contributor and will soon join us as nbcs washington correspondent, my friend, it is always a pleasure to work with you, however it comes to be. Im dying for your take on everything that weve heard in the last week. There have been very detailed reports published about the stuff that was going on sort of from about midnovember of 2020 until january 6th and with each passing day, with each layer of the onion that peels back it seems closer and closer to donald trump knowing what was going on and perhaps having an orchestrating role in it. Well, this last week has been extraordinary because we kind of thought we knew how bad things were were. We thought we knew because former President Trump was tweeting about everturning the election something no american president has ever done which is declare victory on Election Night even though he had not won the election and here we go with memos that show that there were people, it was in the government, not just President Trump, but aides, lawyers and other people around him that were thinking of using the powers of the nsa to try to somehow overturn the election and there was this Draft Executive Order and they were talking about taking over the voting machines. I think this is why lawmakers were so insistent including representative cheney and Adam Kinzinger that were extraordinarily rebuked by their own party and they were so insistent saying we need an investigation and we need documents and we need far beyond tweets and rhetoric and far beyond rallies to hold the atmosphere that was working against american democracy and the will of the people. This is interesting because you must have had similar discussions i had post the impeachment where a lot of people said we have the impeachment and he was impeached and everything that needed to be out there is out there. Why dont we move on. Democrats are still trying to live in the past because in fact, what we have found from the January 6th Investigation so far and we still have not had public hearings other than the first day and we still have not a report from them is much, much, much more detailed than what weve had before. We now know that the ceo of overstock was involved in these meetings with michael flynn. The cyber ninja guy was involved in plotting all this nonsense that led to him getting a big contract and that Sydney Powell and rudy giuliani. Its unbelievable the number of people who were pitching a different idea and hour with donald trump . Will things change when it becomes more public when its press report after press report and its after january 6th in your committee. Isnt that the question of our generation of this moment . Will things actually change. Based on my conversations with republicans especially the ones that watch mike pence who at once was downplaying the january 6th insurrection saying they were talking about it too much in the press and finally finds a moment when he can admit reality that donald trump is wrong and no one has the power to overturn the election . Based on my conversation with those sort of republicans and those sort of conservatives and until something drastic happens and an insurrection is not draftic and just pause to remember that, they were saying that President Trump will continue to have the power. I do hear some people saying that there are some issues with vaccines which is not specifically related to january 6th, but this idea that former President Trump is having a break with his party and his followers because hes saying that he will take the vaccine and people were angry with him about that issue, but when it comes to january 6th and what well learn about the insurrection it doesnt team like the party including the rnc will be moved by that. I have to tell you when i saw mike pence yesterday say that my head started spinning for two reasons, first he was actually saying that and then my head started spinning because my head was spinning on something that was right. We grow up in times when two impeachments and an intent to incite an insurrection is career ending, but its 2022. Yamiche alcindor is moderator of news this week on pbs and a soontobe resident on msnbc news. We welcome you with open arms. 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