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MSNBC The Cycle February 4, 2013

Life, this piece of your heart was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It changes you. Youre not the same afterwards. And obviously, whatever that experience is like is nothing compared to the experience that those families are actually going through. It makes you realize that if theres even one thing to do to keep our children and communities safe, one step to prevent more families from feeling what they feel after theyve lost a loved one, you have an obligation to take that step. We have an obligation to give our Police Officers and our communities the tools they need to make some of the same progress thats been made here in minneapolis. There wont be perfect solutions. We wont save every life but we can make a difference. Thats our responsibility as americans. Thats what ill do every sine day as long as ive got the honor of serving as your president. So thank you. God bless you. God bless these United States of america. Thank you. President obama just wrapping up the first campaignstyle push for gun control legislation. Why minneapolis . Because that citys efforts to curb gun violence cut the number of young people involved in 66 in 5 years and produced a 41 drop in the number of young people involved in gun violence. And pushing better background checks. Over the weekend the white house released this picture after critics said he shoots all the time at camp david. David plouffe tweeted, make our day. Let the photo shop conspiracies begin. Does it really matter whether the president shoots himself if he has respect for the american hunting tradition . The senate set to unveil a gun bill to parallel the president s proposal. Didnt vote for the assault weapons last time because it was didnt make sense, but ill take a look at it. I think we need to take a look at federal trafficking. I think that everyone acknowledges we should do something with background checks. Universal background checks . Yeah. We need to increase that. Wayne lapierre hit the sunday show circuit and taken to task over the ad asking obamas daughters protected by guns at school. Why isnt your child . The point of that ad was this. It wasnt picking on the president s kids. The president s it mentions them. Theyre safe and were all thankful for it. They also face a threat that most children do not face. Tell that to the people in newtown. Tell that do you think that the president s children are the same kind of target as every school child in america . Thats ridiculous and you know it, sir. Even the xherms last night with the gun debate. The nra once supported background checks. America can do this. For us. Please. Starting with michael sheer for time magazine. Welcome. Thank you for having me, toure. One of the things that the senate is proposing a curbing sales in states with relaxed laws to buyers in states with tougher laws. This is not something that the president s been pushing already. Sounds interesting. How exactly would they go about doing that . Im not sure the details of how that one would go. I think the full suite of proposals pushed in that bill you are talking about is coming out of what the white house proposal was. Theres three efforts now moving through the senate. Feinstein effort, hard line gun control assault weapons ban that everyone says has a little chance of the senate let alone the house. Theres a big democratic bill which you mentioned with a number of these provisions in it and then a third effort, a bipartisan effort, which we havent yet really seen the outlines of to focus on the background check area which is really where there is emerging bipartisan consensus at this point. And were going to see over the coming months exactly where it all how it all shifts out. Michael, mayors against illegal guns put out a paper today talking about 43 Mass Shootings, at least 4 People Killed in 1 time, 43 Mass Shootings since january 2009. Thats more than one per month. And you see the amount of Energy Behind the attempt to create gun control is waning even after newtown and shocked america and you have to wonder, are we as a nation getting too numb to actually get to a place of gun control . Well, what we know about Mass Shootings is theres actual remarkable and rather depressing consistency. For decades now averaged about 20 Mass Shootings a year. And a mass shooting is defined as four or more killed. Obviously, there are a lot more shootings like Mass Shootings that dont involve four or more killed. Random shootings and workplaces and things like that. The problem isnt worse but had a number of high profile Mass Shootings including newtown, so unspeakable in the details that it really did galvanize the country. I mean, what struck me about this debate, just in three weeks, is every time theres an event that i cover about the nra testifying or another speech here or another proposal, the news on msnbc and other networks is breaking to school in kentucky or a school in california. This is the reality of our lives. I think the polls show theres increased sensitivity to this issue. There is more interest now than there was. I mean, for most of the 2000s, polling showed the American People not interested in revisiting this issue and both parties were not. I think the polls now shifted somewhat. Doesnt mean that you can go back to an assault weapons ban right away or the point of 90s with krim crime as an issue for more americans. But i dont think the rage and frustration is going away and i think the president knows he has enormous soapbox and clearly showing hes willing to use it. So theres more of a popular sentiment to do something on gun control than in two decades. Another difference between now and the past two decades, we saw, played a clip a funt ago. In the super bowl last night, the bloomberg group, mayors against gun violence, 100,000 for an ad in washington. Wasnt national. Its a lot of money and speaks to the fact that especially with bloomberg leaving office this year, and devoting himself more to efforts like this, there could be some real serious money sort of coming in from the outside as this goes forward, as the legislative process goes forward. I wonder the role you see in bloomberg specifically and mayors against gun violence shaping what comes through congress. A huge rule. Maybe not this cycle but the future sig cycles. We put biden, bloomberg and giffords on the cover. Bloomberg because hes, you know, worth dozens of billions of dollars. And said he eeg willing to spend substantial sums of money and targeted races around the gun issue. Giffords said her effort and mark kellys effort to raise about 20 million. I think bloomberg could match that or go further. He said he wants to get members of congress on the record on these issues so that next cycle we can come advertise either for them or against them and issuing a threat right now to congress to say, look, big money is here. We have super pacs. We can spend this money in your race, in you district, you have to know that there is both backup for you if you take a difficult vote and a possible threat coming at you. The question is, what the impact will be long term. One of the myths of the National Rifle association is main power is ability to spend money in elections on tv and they really have never been heavy hitters in most cases in television. They have a lot of grass roots campaigning, a huge membership in a lot of districts. Their real impact is that the people that care about guns tend to vote on that issue whereas the people who are more for gun control dont usually decide their vote based on that issue so if you go on the record especially in some of the purple states or red states as a democrat, saying youre for more gun control, you run a real risk of turning out voters otherwise who would agree with you but on the gun issue, they like all of your other policieies but vote r you coming after the guns. Thats a great segue of a problem potentially of harry reid to face in nevada. He took down the sportsman for harry reid website which you can still find, you know, screen grabs of online. It features very prominently an endorsement of Wayne Lapierre on the top and reads senator reid led efforts to create the worlds finest shooting range right here in our state and staunchly opposed to the socalled assault weapons ban, played a Critical Role in passing a law to protect gun manufacturers from junk lawsuits, et cetera. Where does he go in the National Conversation . You mentioned some proposals flying around. What does he do about this . I think hes been pretty clear in trying to carefully stake out the position. The history here is hes definitely a proguns Second Amendment guy from a progun state in nevada and the views didnt change. Whats maybe changed is that his relationship with the National Rifle association is a lot worse. Hes found himself running against them and even though the votes are totally pro nra if you score him. The nra putt up money against him and really burned that bridge with him. I think what hes going to be doing over the coming months is going to give a vote to dianne feinstein, probably wont vote for that. Going to allow try to get votes on the democratic package and i think going to work to try and build, you know, 60vote plus super majority in the senate to try to get something over to the house. I think he is determined to do that. And all signs point to that. I think it is short of an assault weapons ban, probably wont include magazine limits but as you heard the president say today, at the top of the speech, i think really most important part of the speech saying even though we cant agree on everything, that doesnt mean we shouldnt try to do something. It is not an all or nothing deal for me. This is what i want. Lets negotiate and work on this and make sure something happens. Harry reid is on that same page. Before this latest push, the one item that the president had spoken out about before was the assault weapons ban and as youre basically saying, thats the sort of most politically fraught and challenging piece of this. Feinsteins bill unlikely to pass and the other two approaches probably nth senate wont include that. Is the assault weapons ban a must have for the white house or willing to let that go . I think its a must push for but not a must have. I think its something that obama has always been for, a lot of democrats have always been for it. The white house wasnt publicly pushing for this. Theyd be fighting against their own basin stead of focusing on the issues where they want to focus. You saw even during the process of coming up with these proposals, Vice President biden very clearly in public statements drawing this up didnt mention the assault weapons ban but other parts of it. Early on, the white house setting the stage for this bifurcation. You can push for the assault weapons ban and signal to really the moderate democrats in the senate who dont want that vote that its okay for them not to go along with the assault weapons ban but dont give up on the rest of the package. Lets get something done. I think thats the situation we have right now in the senate. All right. Michael, thank you very much. Thanks a lot. Much more ahead. Lets take a moment to acknowledge the death of an american hero, someone that made a deep impression on the staff of this show. Chris kyle did five combat tours in iraq, known as the deadliest sniper in u. S. History, an advocate for veterans mental health. He and a friend were shot and killed in texas. Another vet who it appears they were trying to help through Mental Illness is in custody. Last year, kyle spoke about the dedication to former service members. There were several different times we thought that this might be it. But thats what you signed up and you basically wrote a blank check up to the price of your life that youre willing to get for the country and nut that situation then you just fight as hard as you can and hopefully you come out but if you dont then youre dying in honor of your country, especially for your brothers on the right and left of you. Whole grain, multigrain cheerios mom, are those my jeans . [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who dont. Multigrain cheerios thats not much, you think. Except its 2 every year. Go to etrade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. Spoiler alert its low. Its guidance on your terms, not ours. Etrade. Less for us. More for you. For one National Conversation to another, last nights super bowl gave us plenty to talk about. We had the game itself. Boring. Where a [ laughter ] i kid, i kid. A 49er comeback stalled out. A blackout paused the game more than half an hour. That was boring. There was the halftime show that the whole world settled to watch. You were great, beyonce, by the way. And then finally the commercials and the new american tradition of shushing people in breaks in the game to hear whats being said by corporations. Nice. So im sure each of us has a favorite moment and getting to the game. But first i want to whoa. What just happened. Steve, did you do that . Momentums been completely changed now. Momentum its completely messed up now. I hope there are no lip readers because toures about to lose it. Im out of here. Yeah. So there was the blackout which was obviously bizarre and i think gave rise to potentially some great harbaugh family practical jokes in the family like at the first family dinner since the super bowl, jack goes and cuts the power as a joke. Love that. Light the producers just did. Exactly. Great guys. Thanks. But it also made me think of it was like a super bowl brought by stefan. It has everything. Brothers. Beyonce. Blackouts. Ray lewis. Destinys child. Right . Yes yes yes yes yes. It was so great and weird. But all in all interesting. Something to watch i think every, you know, every quarter. Something for everyone. Something weird happened. There was, those are those memories and thought there was one other professional sports team with a blackout before. Giants. No. It was the Boston Bruins and the oilers 1980. The old Boston Garden and the ice would melt during games. Initial watching this during the game and then happens in a super bowl. I thought we had advanced. We dont worry about those problems. This is a major sport. Well, the stanley cup finals, but anyway, talking about the super bowl, i was talking friday i was not excited for the game and i found myself for most of it, the reins all over San Francisco. I was cheering for San Francisco to come back and found myself reverting and cheering for the rai ravens again. Clearly the blackout seemed to be the turning point. Yep. 286 at that point. The reins just run back a kickoff for 108 yards and then San Francisco just completely turned around at that point. I found interesting and kind of baffling was, you know, san fran with the first and goal at the 70 yard line with 2 or 3 minutes left in the game. Theyve got this the big turning point in San Franciscos san was harbaughs decision to switch the quarterbacks. Smith sort of a conventional quarterback for ckaepernick and then that quarterback. Five yards. Second and goal. Three shots at the end zone and run alex smith passes. Three passes. Well covered. Maybe Michael Crabtree or holding there in the lals play. Well never know. The flag that never was. We had the same conversation. It was wow. A decision to switch quarterbacks. Krystal texting me all night last night. I cant believe this defense theyre running. Youre right. They should have put more running. On the last bit. But overall, i have new respect for joe flacco. I thought that he was an average nfl quarterback. I got to move him up. Maybe not top ten just yet but darn close to it because he was great last night. Precise. Strong. Short throws. Long throws. But ray lewis and a goal line stand at the end, to get his final, final championship trophy, grateful and very hollywood. She saw it coming. She is the only one that picked the ravens. I have to say and i was right about beyonces hair. Just saying. Did call curly. I love, steve, how you always vote you always root for the underdog. Always. Yeah. Well no matter who it is. And will change midstream. Who wants to watch a 2816 even when its but even when it was 286, we thought that the 49ers could come back. Just like just like we know that america when it is down can come back. Thats right. Paul harvey commercial for dogs when theyre talking about the power of the farmer and god made lets watch a little bit of that. That was my favorite commercial of the night. God looked down on the planned paradise and said i need a caretaker. So god made a farmer. God said i need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows, go to town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the school. Thats a farmer. I loved hearing his voice once more. Very cool. Michelle tweeted watching the super bowl with family and friends. Beyonce was phenomenal. Beyonce is the best singer and dancer. Gretchen says she blew a fuse. And the lights did go out soon after. Get in on the conversation. Up next, we shift gears and get a rare look inside the world of extreme smuggling. The plots to transport weapons, drugs and exotic animals around us without anyone being the wiser. A daring filmmakers brings us stories from the underside of the business in the guest spot. Justin owns city aquariums in brooklyn, new york. His unique designs and personal attention to the customers fish gained him a celebrity client e clientele, a company base to call any time day or night if they need help. 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