Enough that i think people will be paying close enough attention that details count. And i think prepared remarks from secretary lew on that topic would probably be more appropriate. As i indicated before, we plan for every contingency. So obviously, worst case scenario, there are things that we will try to do. But i will repeat, i dont think any option is good. Steven dennis. Could you talk about project process. In the past you negotiated along with the debt ceiling with the blue dogs in 2009, 2010 along with an increase then. Pay as you go reform. The republicans today are talking about lets have maybe another committee that would work out our differences over the next few weeks. Is that something that you could talk about on the side, something that wouldnt necessarily be a concession but something that would be a format for getting a deal done . Heres the thing steven. I know that Speaker Boehner has talked about setting up some new processor some new Super Committee or what have you. The leaders up in congress can work through whatever processes they want. But the bottom line is eermg youre having good faith negotiations in which theres give and take or youre not. There is already a process in place called the budget committees that could come together right now, democrats have been asking for 19 months to bring them together, make a determinati determination, how much the government would be spending next year, the appropriations committees could go through the list and heres how much were going to be spending for defense and heres how much were going to be spending for education. Thats a process that worked reasonably well for last 50 years. I dont know we need a new committee for a process like that to move forward. What has changed or what seems to be motivating the idea that we have to have a new process, is Speaker Boehner or at least some faction of the republicans in the house and maybe some in the senate, are holding out for a negotiation in theory but in fact basically democrats give to republicans and republicans dont give anything and thats dubbed as compromise. The reason they have to give is they are worried the government will stay shut down or the u. S. Government is going to default. And again, that you can dress it up any way you want. If thats the theory that the republicans are Going Forward with, then its not going to work. Let me just give you one specific example. I heard at least and i cant confirm this, that one of the ideas of the new committee, you could talk about reductions in discretionary spending. You could talk about entitlement reform and reductions in mandatory spending. You could talk about how long you would extend the debt ceiling but couldnt talk about closing corporate loopholes that arent benefitting ordinary folks economically and potentially if you close them would allow us to pay for things like better education for kids. Well, you know, i dont know why democrats right now would agree to a format that takes off the table all of the things they care about. And its confined to the things that the republicans care about. So again, i dont know that thats exactly whats being proposed. My simple point is this, i think democrats in the senate and the house are prepared to talk about anything. Im prepared to talk about anything. They can design whatever formats they want. What is not fair and will not result in an actual deal is ransom taking or hostage taking an the expectation the democrats are paying a ransom or providing concessions for the moore act of reopening the government or paying our bills. Those are not things that you do for me and they are not things that you do for the democrats. Is there a point where its not necessarily a concession, it is you would negotiate what the negotiations are going to look like, you dont have to agree to overturn obama care, but you could actually negotiate what the talks are going to look like so everybody is comfortable. And you mentioned yourself. This is a tough vote for the House Republicans. Youre asking them to take a tough vote for the debt ceiling. Usually people in both parties want to have some cover, something they can point to and say which is fine. I want some budget process reform or another trillion dollars in debt. Which is fine. If they want to do that, reopen the government, extend the debt ceiling. If they cant do it for a long time, do it for the period of time in which these negotiations are taking place. Why is it that weve got hundreds and thousands of people who arent working right now in order for what you just described to occur . It doesnt make any sense. The Small Business administration gives out a billion dollars worth of loans every month to Small Businesses all across the country. That is not happening right now. So there are Small Businesses in every state that are counting on a loan to get their business going and youve got the party of Small Business saying Small Business administration cant do it. Thats what they call themselves. And yet, they are suffering. Youve got farmers who are waiting for loans right now and they cannot be processed. The Republican Party says that the party looks out for farmers, i happen to disagree, i think farmers have done good under my administration. But having said that, why would you keep the government shut down and those farmers not getting loans while were having the discussions you just talked about . You know, the republicans say they are very concerned about drilling. They say obama has been restricting Oil Production despite the fact that Oil Production is the highest level its been in years and is continuing to zoom up. They say the democrats are holding back Oil Production in this country. Well, you know, one of the things that happens when the government shuts down, new drilling permits arent process. Why would the republicans say to the folks interested in drilling for oil, sorry, we cant let those things be processed until we have some negotiations and we have some cover to do what were supposed to be doing anyway. That doesnt make sense. It if theres a way to solve this, it has to include reopening government and saying america is not going to default and pay its bills. They can attach some process to that that gives them some certainty that in fact the things that they are concerned about will be topics of negotiation. If my word is not good enough and ive told them im happy to talk about it. If they want to specify all of the items they think need to be a topic of conversation, happy to do it. I want to say, part of that process is were going to go through line by line all of the aspects of the president S Health Care plan that we dont like and we want the president to answer for those things. Im happy to sit down with them as many hours as they want. I want to let them gut a law is goi i wont let them gut a law but im happy to talk about it. Steven im going through my list, guys. [ indiscernible ] in the campaign against terrorism and if we see u. S. Military operations, how does that square with your contingent that america cannot be at war forever . If you look at the speech i gave at the National Defense college several months ago, i outline the how i saw the shift in terrorism around the world and what we have to do to respond to it. Part of what i said is that we had decimated core al qaeda, that been operating between afghanistan and pakistan. But you now have these regional groups, some of which are explicitly tied to al qaeda or that idealogy and some of which more localized. A few of them have the ability to project beyond their borders but they can do a lot of damage inside their borders. And africa is one of the places where because in some cases lack of capacity on the part of the governments and in some cases because it is easier for folks to hide out in vast terrains that are sparsely populated, that youre seeing some of these groups gather. Were going to have to continue to go after them. Theres a difference between us going after terrorists who are plotting dwrekt directly to the United States and us being involved in wars. The risks of terrorism and terrorist networks will continue for some time to come. Weve got to have a longterm plan that is not just military based. Weve got to engage in ideas in the region and engage with muslim countries and try to isolate radical elements that are doing more damage to muslims than they are doing to anybody else. Weve got to think about Economic Development because although theres not a direct correlation between terrorism and the economy, theres no doubt if you got a lot of unemployed, uneducated young men in societies theres a greater likelihood that terrorist activities are available. Where you have active plots and active networks, were going to go after them. We prefer partnering with countries where this is taking place wherever we can and build up their capacity. But were not going to farm out our defense and i have to say by the way, the operations that toopgs both in libya and somalia, were examples of extraordinary skill and dedication and talent of our men and women in the armed forces. They do their jobs extremely well, with great precision and great risk to themselves and i think they are pretty good examples for those of us in washington should operate as well. Comply with International Law . We know that mr. Al libi planned and helped to execute plots that killed hundreds of people, a whole lot of americans. We have strong evidence of that. And he will be brought to justice. Mark. Mr. President , while youre waiting for the shutdown to end, why is it that you cant go along with any of the bills the house is passing, funding the fda and fema, where you were yesterday and Veterans Benefits and head start, youve got to be tempted to sign the bills and get funding to those programs that you support. Of course im tempted because youd like to think you can solve at least some of the problems if you kopt solve all of them. Heres the problem. What youve seen are bills that come up where wherever republicans are feeling political pressure, they put a bill forward. And if theres no political heat, if theres no Television Story on it, then nothing happens. And if we do some sort of shotgun approach like that, then youll have some programs that are highly visible get funded and reopened Like National monuments, but things that dont get a lot of attention, like the sba loans, not being funded. You know, we dont get to select which programs we implement or not. There are a whole bunch of things the republicans have said are law that we have to do and i dont get a chance to go back and say, you now what, this coke cockamamy idea that congress came up with, i dont like so lets not implement that. Once you have a budget and government with a set of functions, we make sure that its all operating. We dont get to pick and choose based on which party likes what. Thats where the budget discussions take place. They should argue for eliminating those programs in the budget and come to an agreement with the democrats, maybe the democrats will agree and those things wont be funded but you dont do a piecemeal approach when youre dealing with the Government Shutdown. Im going to take one more question. And right here. Mr. President persistence has worked. Mr. President , you talked about the political dynamics that leave House Republicans feeling they dont want to negotiate or come together. I would ask you two things about that. Looking back at the 2011 default discussions with the budget drama, is there anything that you would wish you had done differently in 2011 . After this what you call this nonsense has ended, what do you expect the political dynamics might how will they have changed to move forward . I think its an interesting question. In 2011, i entered into good faith negotiations with john boehner. He had just won the speakership. It was at a time because we were still responding to the recession, deficits were high and people were concerned about it and i thought it was my obligation to meet him halfway. And so we had a whole series of talks and at that point at least, nobody had any belief that people would come close to potential default. I dont regret having those negotiations and we came fairly close. And whenever i see john boehner to this day, i still say should have taken the deal i offered you back then, which would have dealt with our longterm deficit problems and would not have impeded growth as much and really boosted confidence. But at that time, i think House Republicans had just taken over and they were feeling their oats and thinking we dont have to compromise. And we came pretty close to default. And we saw the impact of that. I would have thought that they would have learned the lesson from that as i did, which is we cant put in the American People and our economy through that ringer again. So thats the reason why ive been very clear, were not going to negotiate around the debt ceiling. That has to be dealt with in a reasonable fashion. By the way, i often hear people say well in the past its within dealt with all the time. The truth of the matter is, if you look at the history, people postu rcht e about the debt ceiling frequently but the way it often got passed, you would stick the debt ceiling on to a budget negotiation once it was completed because people figured i dont want to take a bunch of cut votes to cut programs or raise taxes and also have to take a debt ceiling vote. Let me do it all at with us. It wasnt a situation, what if i dont get what i want, im going to let us default, thats what has changechanged. I said were not going to do that again, not just for me because future president s, republican or democrat, should not be in a position where they have to choose between making sure the economy stays afloat and we avoid worldwide catastrophe or provide concessions to one faction of one party in one house. And but let me tell you a lesson i did not learn. A did not learn a lesson we shouldnt compromise. I still think we should. I think there are all kinds of issues we should be talking about and dont expect to get 100 of my way. Im still very open to having conversations with not just the speaker but any republican over there. So go ahead. If you enter into a series of short term bills or debt ceiling bill, youll be back in the same place presumably with these same members of congress. What has changed in the political dynamic if you do short term . What has changed they are aware of the fact that im not budging when it comes to the full faith and credit of the United States, that that has to be dealt with that you dont pay a ransom or provide concessions for congress doing its job and america paying its bills. And i think most people understand that. I mean, i i was at a Small Business the other day and talking to a bunch of workers and said, when youre at the plant and youre in the middle of your job, do you ever say to your boss, unless i get a raise right now and more vacation pay, im going to just shut down im not going to walk off the job shs but break the equipment. How do you think that would go . They all thought they would be fired and most of us think that. Theres nothing wrong with asking for a raise or asking for more time off, but you cant burn down the plant or your office if you dont get your way. Well, the same thing is true here and most americans understand that. All right. Thank you very much, everybody. We just heard there from the president as the Government Shutdown drags into week two and the debt ceiling limit looms large the cycle has you covered. Lets start at the white house with peter alexander. Peter, what was the thinking behind having this press conference on this day . Krystal, its a good question. This is part of a continued effort by the white house to be out in front of this to continue to put pressure on House Republicans to put a vote on the floor, specifically, about a clean cr, continuing resolution as well as the debt ceiling to try to lift these issues away from the crises they presently face and create a president says he would be willing to negotiate. He walked down the street to go get lunch and went to fema yesterday and this today, wait and see, hell probably do anything tomorrow. He didnt mins words with the use of words like ransom, extortion, dead beat in the course of his conversations. He did float a couple of ideas where the potential out may be, simply acknowledging that he pledged to sign a shortterm clean cr, Something Like six to eight weeks that would remove that issue and allow for negotiations, also floated the idea of increasing the debt limit for whatever the length of time is that negotiations take. He said he would negotiate on things like the Health Care Law as well as the longterm deficit. Heres some what the president said in his own words. Lets stop the excuses. Lets take a vote in the house. Lets end the shutdown right now and put people back to work. There are enough Reasonable Republicans and democrats in the house willing to vote yes on a budget that the Senate Already passed. That vote could take place today and the shutdown would be over. Serious negotiations could proceed around every item in the budget. Last time that the Tea Party Republicans flirted with the idea of default two years ago, markets plunged, business and Consumer Confidence plunged. Americas Credit Rating was downgraded for the first time. A decision to actually go through with it to actually permit default according to many ceos and im quoting here, insane, catastrophic, chaos, these are some of the more polite words. Warren buffett likened default to a nuclear bomb, a weapon too horrible to use. It would disrupt markets and under