House point person on ensuring the program works, Kathleen Sebelius was back on the hill. Users are receiving far fewer error messages and timeouts. And were now able to process nearly 17,000 reg strants per hour with almost no errors. For millions of americans, delay is not an option. Peoples lives depend on this. We discussed security as part of the overall operations on a regular basis with the operations team, but no one i would say suggested that the risk outweigh the importance of moving forward. Lets go right to luke russert in washington. Luke, not quite the same fireworks we saw during sebeliuss first round of testimony, but what did you make of the oversight there today . Thats to be expected. The senate is the house of lords as compared to the house of commons. But what we did learn today, number one, is that Kathleen Sebelius resisted bipartisan attempts to perhaps shut down the website until they can get it fixed so it wouldnt be any more confusing for those who want to enroll. You saw in the bite there, there was no point in doing that because it is easier to fix the website while it was up. We also learned that enrollment numbers would be low but she also perhaps most importantly said that we are not where we need to be. Very similar to what she said last week accepting the blame trying to move forward. There were fireworks under john cornyn of texas. Kathleen sebelius whether there were criminal background checks involved for folks like navigators who helped people try to get enrolled in the website. They said they were not cornyn said youre going to have possible fell ones dealing with this very personal information, that could be problematic. Thats something of a nugget that will go big in the conservative blogosphere. But i will say overall, ari, she definitely performed better than last week. By taking responsibility sort of takes a little bit of hot air out when folks say she shouldnt rea sign, saying were doing our best, moving right along. They are not going to put down the website but keep it up, even though theres a bipartisan call for it to be up until its fixed. When you think about her situation, you think some some ways shes playing a tough hand pretty well here, you know what i mean . Shes really theres not much she can do. She fell on the sword for the administration. Shes base beingally saying, were doing all we can to fix it. Im sure in hindsight they wish they could have delayed it but if they delayed it one second, the cat calls from the other side would have been unbelievable. Charles hadlock is awaiting the president s arrival. What do you know about the push today . Reporter well, ari, the president just arrived at and w Andrews Air Force base aboard marine one and he will begin the trip to texas. Once hes here, hell meet with paid navigators and volunteered who helped people navigate they are way through the healthcare. Gov website, which has gotten off to a very rocky start. Theres a reason hes coming to texas. A quarter of the pop lace, 6 Million People are without Health Care Health insurance here in texas. Thats the most of any state in the union. Now, texas is also opted out of the Health Care Exchange program and governor rick perry refused to expand medicaid as the president had wanted. Texas also the critics in texas say the Affordable Health care act as promised by the president has been a disaster and they point to the fact that millions of americans are now being told they cannot keep their Health Care Plans as the president explained that they could. Theres another reason obama is coming to texas, its to collect cash for the democrats for the democratic senatorial candidates, hell attend a reception later today. 15,000 a head reception, followed by a 32,000 a plate dinner at the homes of several prominent democratic lawyers here in texas. This is the president s 12th trip to texas. His fourth trip to dallas. The last time was for the opening the george w. Bush president ial library back in april. Thanks for coming on. To help us dissect all things obama care, were joined by megan mccartel. How are you . Im fine, thanks. Well get to elections but a lot of talk about navigators and New York Times reporting some states like kentucky, theyve been very helpful. Luke russert reporting on republicans though trying to use this sort of grass roots outreach as a potential pit fall. How important is it to have something offline to help people in states learn about what they can do under this law . Well, i think right now its very important. If the website isnt performing as we expected, it probably wouldnt be as important. You would still want that, especially for seniors who arent always the tech savviest people. The issue is that the republicans are pretty fair on is that not all of the navigators seem to have been trained as much as you might like. The New York Times article had a kentucky navigator telling a woman who is reluctant to sign up for medicaid, you could just sign up and use it for catastrophic expenses and pay your doctors outofpocket for other things. Its actually illegal tore providers to accept medicaid payments outofpocket from people on medicaid. They can only accept the state mandated copays. So Health Care System really, really complicated. And its difficult to master all of these rules in the time that we have for training, as we go forward, i expect youll see some of that shake out. If we keep having navigators around, theyll learn more about how the insurance system works and what they should and shouldnt say. And in somewhat good news, opposition to the law has gone down, very slightly. Its down from 63 in september to 56 now with 42 saying they are likely to enroll. Thats compared to 37 back in september. But megan, youve been writing about this, still very much cause for concern are young people signing up. We know this is an important part of this. This is the only way its going to work, otherwise the price will go up for everyone involved. But you make the point we shouldnt worry quite yet. We should have expected to see the oldest and sickest and poorest patients registering nationally, the most motivated to sign up. When do you think we should start worrying and if we get to the point not enough young people sign up, what is the reality of that . Right now you wouldnt expect for the kind of young and healthy to sign up because its still hard to go through the website and thats where you expect them to go. But i do think that if say in december 15th we havent seen significant uptake on the website for the people who want to sign up for january 1st, we should start to get nervous then. You know, its a little bit hard to tell because if the website isnt working by december 15th, which isnt out of the realm of the possibility, maybe you push that deadline out to january or february. But certainly by january, really need to see young and Healthy People getting on the exchanges and getting coverage to keep premiums low for everyone. Lets talk about last night. Theres two schools of thought in the pundit, about what obama care and the va gubernatorial results mean. Some are pointing to 53 of virginia voters saying they oppose obama care and 90 of them voting against mcauliffe, suggesting to something that it had a shrink that gap. Others saying no, its been unchanged over the last year and as abby alluded to, tick upward recently. Thats probably not the issues. My question, which school of thought are you leaning toward . I think we have to go outside. Virginia race and look at the president s polls, its a little messy and unclear in virginia. If youve been following president obamas polls he started off with a case of second termitis, but when the shutdown happened, his poll stazs started to recover and then took a dramatic turn and diving again. That seems to be in reaction to the problems were having with the obama care website. And of course the insurance policy cancellation. So i think looking at those polls where they are now back close to the worst levels ever, i do think that suggests that across the nation, people are really worried about the website and whether its going to work and losing confidence in it. That may of course turn around in the website is up and working in a couple of weeks. But i do think that probably did have impact in virginia. Megan, we focused a lot on enrollment in the private insurance exchanges and the problems there. For the states that did go forward with the medicaid expansion, how is that piece working for them . So medicaid is actually been surprisingly strong in a lot of states because its actually in fact much stronger than people were expecting. We were expecting a pretty even split between Medicare Medicaid patients and people signing up for private insurance on the exchanges. Instead what weve seen in states Like Washington and states like new york and states like oregon, is that the bulk of the enrollments are coming through medicaid. Again, who is most likely to kind of rush in at the beginning, people who have not been able to get insurance before and not people who havent been bothering by it but blocked by one reason or another. Low income people would be a group we would expect to see earlier than the Young Healthy financially stable people we hope are going to come in later. But medicaid has mostly been working well. In part because theres a mechanism for signing people up outside of the exchanges. Even in oregon where they are exchange isnt really working yet, theyve managed to get like 50,000 people on medicaid pretty early. Theyve been building off statutory format that already exists so that makes a big difference. Thanks for your time today. Thank you. Up next, its going to begin for mcauliffe and christie and de blasio, well chat about the Election Results and what it means as the cycle rolls on. Yes, the president was somewhat dishonest about the promise of his health care program, but heres the weird part, his opponents have been lying like [ bleep ] about its effects. Its estimated obama care will increase taxes over a trillion dollars and add 6 trillion to the deficit. 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What if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you . When you think about it, isnt that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love . Decision 2013 is now behind us, bring on 2016. Those are the headlines surrounding new jersey governor Christ Christie today, pulled off a landslide victory against his opponent. The biggest things ive learned about leadership over the past four years, leadership is much less about talking than it is about listening. I know if we can do this in trenton, new jersey, maybe the folks in washington, d. C. Should tune in tvs right now and see how its done. Terry mcauliffes victory in the virginia race was much tighter, he beat Tea Party RepublicanKen Cuccinelli and abortion as slavery campaign, cant imagine why he struggled with american voters. Lets ask howard fineman, i have to tell you as someone who lived in virginia most of my life, who ran for congress in virginia, i find it amazing that abortion is actually a winning issue for democrats in virginia now. If you look at the numbers, 20 of the voters say abortion was the number one issue. Of the 20 , Terry Mcauliffe won them overwhelmingly. Virginia has changed, especially northern virginia, especially the washington suburbs of virginia. And virginia, i would like to say virginia is the new ohio, its the ultimate swing state. On abortion its clear that certainly among working women in the washington area, professional women, and women who sort of part of the metropolitan area and other cities like richmond and even roanoke and Hampton Roads own so forth, you cant be a hard line right to lifer and have much of a chance at winning at virginia anymore. Youre right, thats a huge change. The election ended up being closer than anyone expected. I wouldnt be surprised if the tea partyers are saying, we actually had the cards stacked against us. We didnt have the establishment behind us and folks coming out stumping for us like the clintons did. We didnt have nearly as much money, we had the Government Shutdown and we got close enough to potentially win this race. We had maybe one more week, maybe a little bit more money, we could have been successful. I feel they might be reenergied and say, once again we were wronged and were not going anywhere. Maybe thats a good thing for democrats. Well, i think youre right on the attitude of Tea Party People from Ken Cuccinelli to people all around the country. Terry mcauliffe, hugely outspent Ken Cuccinelli especially at the end of the race. Terry mcauliffe was carpet bombing the media market with tv ads attacking cuccinelli and also cuccinelli had to deal with the specific effects of the Government Shutdown because one amazing, one out of three voerts in virginias according to exit polls said they were directly affected by the Government Shutdown. Those people went almost 21 for Terry Mcauliffe. Really in a way it was ted cruz who lost the election for republicans in virginia because he led the Government Shutdown. Of course, abby is right, like zombies on walking dead because you cant kill them no matter what you do ee lectorly, the war in the gop, you have these establishment folks and tea party folks, they arent going anywhere. But the interesting thing, this is not a debate over ideology on that side of the aisle. It is about tactics and how far we take disagreements with the dems and president. If you look at Chris Christies stance on the social issue, hes moderated to some extent. At one point he contributed to planned parenthood years ago and had a big conversion on abortion but makes exceptions for rape, for insist, for the life of the mother. Thats liberalism by modern republican standards. What a moderate. Thats the moderate position. He sort of gave up the fight in the courts on gay marriage. So the tone part of it is substance but also tone and also the difference between the ram pant ideologues running free on the house floor of the congress and governors in blue or purple states who are republicans but who nevertheless have to govern. And they get mugged by reality the way Chris Christie did in new jersey and the way john kasich did in ohio and even rick scott to some extent in florida. Theyve got to govern and deal with real on the ground problems and that turns the biggest ideologue into a pragmatic person. That was was that jersey, could there be anything more jersey than the setting for that announcement in asbury park last night . It was just amazing. Theres a saying in the hip hop community, real talk. Theyll have to have real talk about Chris Christie and incredible coalition. Whatever you think of his politics, this was remarkable, a third of democrats went out for him. A majority of the latinos in the state, and an unusually large share, one out of five africanamerican voters and speak to that and when democrats wake up to what a Strong Coalition he put together yesterday. I think it was very impressive. Youre right to show those numbers. I think thats one of the most impressively sort of multicultural ethnic coalitions ive seen any major republican figure put together in a long, long time. And thats what the Republican Party needs to do. The Republican National committee put out a report saying they have bad websites and bad communications. Its not that. Its that Chris Christie seemed like a guy who wanted to govern in the interest of all the people of new jersey. And qu