and, by the way, why is a head of state meeting with the russian foreign minister? vladimir putin doesn't meet with mike pompeo when he comes to moscow. it's very strange. lavrov has played all these guys, lasted for years and years. they're sort of toying with trump. they do not admit under any circumstances that they interfered in the u.s. election at all. they won't even go there one inch. >> pompeo standing beside him did say i said don't interfere in the election. i gave him that warning. so, lavrov couldn't stand there and say no, he didn't say that to me. lavrov wouldn't even do trump the favor of saying, yes, did he say that. by the way, it's very unlikely trump said it, right? >> very unlikely. they don't want to seem like trump's errand boy. sergey lavrov speaks better english than the president of the united states. the fact that he did that news