sondland whether president zelensky was going to, quote, do the investigation. we have president's many public statements including his october 3rd statement that ukraine and china should investigate his political rival. even the minority counsel admitted there was direct evidence. he said, quote, we had some direct evidence on certain things and we had some direct evidence on the may 23rd meeting and sondland gave some direct evidence, end quote. the secondhand accounts were also extensively corroborated. for example, ambassador taylor and mr. morrison, both testified that during a september phone call with ambassador sondland president trump said there was no quid pro quo but then president zelensky had to go to the phone and announce investigations. ambassador sondland testified he had no reason to dispute ambassador taylor's and mr. morrison's testify about this conversation. there's also circumstantial