educator. >> joining us now, everton, blair chair of the when it county school board, and jonathan kaye, part opinion for the washington post, he shows of the sunday show with jonathan capehart on msnbc. jonathan, you see alex asked that question and how do you keep race out of a discussion of slavery. and then the pairing gives up, and says, i'm a parent i'm not an educator. well, okay. then why are you talking about any of this? >> right, the conversation that she had with this apparent, goes on to be more sort of, mystifying and enraging as it goes on. including her having a conversation about how, will you know, if someone is stopped by the police, and if the person is polite, and follows the orders of the police, finishing her sentence, nothing bad would happen, as if we have not seen, what, three four