which i do not want to say we, and oath keepers which i do not want to say. because i think both of those are cases of semantic infiltration. those boys have nothing to be proud of. but that's with our colleagues, in their subpoenas. and the oath keepers don't believe in oaths that matter we. so i'm trying to find language for them that isn't what they want. that is in the title they want. >> i will say that with both of those groups, particularly the proud boys, but also a little bit with the oath keepers, i always have found them to be inadvertently funny. those names. not only because they define reality, as you're describing. but because they both sound really day, they both seem like they're referring to gate stuff. whether it's the proud boys, in terms of gay pride, or the oath keepers thing where they run the gate politics around gay