do after the meeting at trump tower. we have to learn from this and just because congress, prior congress did not have an imagination to put in place laws that would protect us against what donald trump exploited, doesn't mean we shouldn't do that going forward. to just talk about what other finer point, david reference trying to score political points. look what donald trump's been able to do by trying to erase what happened with russia in 2016. we now have senators like tom cotton trying to delay, and marco rubio, trying to delay the national defense authorization act because they want us to put tougher sanctions on nordstrom to, against russia forgetting that the reason russia was able to advance so much economically and militarily in the last four years is because the person that they covered four and supported didn't do anything. and in fact, enabled them. >> thank you both very much for joining this discussion tonight. david frum, thank you for writing this piece. let's just pencil in, i don't know, six months from now,