dramatic pictures that we are witnessing of air raid sirens going up and civilians being killed. we are going to get reports, in the morning, i'm sure, of ukrainian casualties. this is a country of 45 million people who did none of the things that vladimir putin has said. and we are dealing with a leader in vladimir putin who is increasingly isolated. increasingly extremists in his rhetoric. sometimes you have to change your mindset about how far you are willing to go. and i think if there are more severe sanctions, like on swift, like oil and gas sanctions, obviously you have to consider the effects, you have to consider what the american people are willing to put up with. but we are in a whole new world right now. and i think that as we watch this conflict unfold and as we watch, tragically, the carnage of this, i think that things that might have seemed out of reach will begin to seem like the more rational option in not